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Title: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: AJB5803 on April 20, 2019, 11:24:40 PM
[v4.2]

I chose the book characters and static (not sandbox) options.

Currently have a party of 70-80 and am approximately 350 days into the campaign.

When I have battles with any party size (from half to double my own party size) what happens after the battle is as follows:
- I get a screen that offers me only 1 of each type of person I rescued to hire and only 1 of each type I knocked out to capture...no matter how many there were.
- goes back to the main screen with a final credit for experience to be shared among the party of a very small amount (in the 20 range)

I never get the screen that asks me how to divvy up loot (3 hours customary, etc) and consequently never get any loot or morale boost or xp from the battle.

This was not always the case as this mechanic worked fine earlier in the campaign, but can't pinpoint exactly when it started going awry.

No idea how to reproduce it or when/why it happens.

Mount & Blade: Warband and AWOIAF v4.2 downloaded from Steam.  Had AWOIAF v4.1 (first and only mod) and Steam automatically downloaded the v4.2 update (not sure if that's relevant).

Thanks!
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Ekkyz on April 26, 2019, 11:56:54 PM
Same issues, around day 50+, Static Wars and HBO TV version. Tall Wildling, complete noble path, lust for money and power, looting skill of 2
Downloaded from moddb, extracted with 7zip, placed in modules in mount and blade folder, I did change the player_banners file and added in my own.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Tyson_48 on April 28, 2019, 10:28:05 AM
Have you been enlisted in a Lord's army?

The same happened to me, when i was enlisted with Robb Stark. After the Red Wedding exactly this happened.
In the notes i was still enlisted to him...
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: AJB5803 on April 28, 2019, 02:56:34 PM
I was always independent and never enlisted in a Lord's army.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Tages Grey on April 28, 2019, 09:32:48 PM
Was the  battle a reinforcement, protection of a caravan, or a straight on battle?  I myself have run into the bug, most of the time it is a failure of the text to display in the bottom left of the screen.  Double check the Recent Messages in information menu you might be able to catch site of battle rewards that way to confirm. The prisoner thing is something I have yet to experience but I am willing to see if I can recreate it. 

Additionally, what is your character's religion, origin culture?  What side did you take for the Red Wedding? I will see if I can recreate exactly what you experiencing.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: AJB5803 on April 29, 2019, 02:30:25 AM
Hi Tages Grey!

All straight battles...I roam around the map attacking bad guys (for the xp and loot), entering tournaments and spent a significant amount of time in the training grounds during the early game leveling up so I can protect myself.

My character is male, race is from the Vale / tall and religion is the Seven.

I chose the option to quit w/o saving...which I felt justified in using during the early game, when a character spawned behind me in mid swing, killing me dead (that parrot is not dead, he's sleeping...)   :)

Reputation level is high, never engaging in any activities that would lower it.

For the Red Wedding, I accepted the invitation as a guest of the Starks (not the Frey side), but did not attend the actual event.

When starting the game at Kings Landing, I did not accept the quest to bring the message to Robb Stark/Winterfell but did find a raven and brought the message to Stannis.

Please let me know if you require any other information.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: SpL3nd1d on April 29, 2019, 11:06:46 AM
Same issue, started around 40 days+. Its makes a mod unfortunatelly unplayeble for me.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Tages Grey on April 29, 2019, 02:09:31 PM
I will check it out and see if I can recreate it.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Tages Grey on April 29, 2019, 10:16:45 PM
No luck in the attempt to recreate this in either 4.2 or the 4.3 test, I tried 2x times on each.  It might have just be a line misalignment or corruption on the save file.  I get these occasionally when I use the steam download, or if I use morghs while in game playing.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: AJB5803 on April 30, 2019, 02:06:48 AM
Hi Tages Grey...thanks for the help.

I don't know what morghs is and I don't use any cheats or access the program in any way.

I'm not a gamer but it seems odd that so many people are having the exact same error (out of so many things that could go wrong with a random save corruption) for it to be a coincidence. 

Wouldn't it have to be the exact same "line misalignment or corruption on the save file" on different peoples computers accessing the game through both Steam and mod db?  This seems unlikely.

I sincerely appreciate your time and help looking into this but I also don't think the folks who created this otherwise awesome mod should write this bug off just yet.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Ekkyz on May 02, 2019, 09:20:20 AM
This is still an issue in 4.3, no morale boost regardless if I "take lead, "charge" or the third option before battle. I finished the nights watch story and delivered the letter to stanis. I changed in the option menu to disable secnery, difficulty from hardest to hard and removed the charge animation. I feel like since i go dick crabb, this hug came back lmao. I did import as well.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Girherd on May 03, 2019, 09:50:22 PM
Same problem here.
It was not corrupt save issue.
It comes after i recruit more than 6 companions.
If i send seventh companion on mission all works again correctly.
Maybe problem of cumulative skills/stats or something like that.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Ekkyz on May 04, 2019, 10:59:27 AM
I will test this out as well. I just got 6 companions. I feel its an issue with the sharing Leadership skill. The game was not meant for it to be a party skill.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Produno on May 04, 2019, 11:15:51 AM
Quote from: Girherd on May 03, 2019, 09:50:22 PM
Same problem here.
It was not corrupt save issue.
It comes after i recruit more than 6 companions.
If i send seventh companion on mission all works again correctly.
Maybe problem of cumulative skills/stats or something like that.


OK looking into this. Are you playing on the ModDB version or Steam?
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Girherd on May 04, 2019, 05:18:44 PM
Steam 4.3
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Ekkyz on May 04, 2019, 08:15:32 PM
So I get loot(sometimes) morale, and exp when i am below 6 companions, however i am capped at 3 prisoners and still only getting 1 of each type of resuced prisoner. moddb version 4.3 i have leadership skill 3
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Ekkyz on May 05, 2019, 07:16:51 PM
I tried diffrent companion combinations and less then 6 even down to 4 and nothing seemed to fix it, i get a max of either 3 prisoners or rescues after battle, definitely a game breaking bug. Good luck fixing this, ill go back to Pendor.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Sredna on May 06, 2019, 06:51:07 PM
Just wanna know Is there any solution figured out? I got the same issue here, tried couples of times.
Tried With Steam 4.3 or with Modb 4.3
No morales nor exp, Loots option and 1 Prisoner per category
Imported Character, Added own Banner.
Adjusted Stats including Leadership, Money, Experience etc.
Works fine in the first couple of days. The issue happened the earliest was on day9 or 10.
Got at least 4 Companions when things happened.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Sredna on May 06, 2019, 06:55:28 PM
The same happens to me, Wanna know is there any solution already?
No Morals boots nor money, experience and 1 prisoner per category
Tried couples of gameplays with Steam 4.3 and with Modb 4.3
Always added own banner, Imported own character.
Adjusted Exp, Money, Leadership etc. (if relevant)
The issue happened in the earliest day was on day 9/10
Always got at least 4companions when the issue happens (if relevant)
Works fine in the first couples of days always.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Sredna on May 06, 2019, 07:08:10 PM
Same issues here,
Found out that if I disbanded all companions, the issue will be solved.
So I think the problem is about the companions.
I got Qyburn, Ser Shadrich the Mad Mouse, Podrick Payne and Hibald.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: azureanders52 on May 06, 2019, 07:28:13 PM
I got the same issues as well. Tried on Steam 4.3 and Modb 4.3 as well
Found out the problems,
If I disbanded all the companions, the issue will be solved.
Therefore I think there are some issues about companions.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: ghost shiv on May 06, 2019, 08:43:57 PM
I have the exact same issue. To my understanding this isn't triggered by any events or setups, as long as you have a companion with any looting skills in the party you will get absolutely no loot at all. Even just having them in your party greatly diminishes your loot as well. In 4.2 I've finished Varis's quests multiple times and summoned Danny, and never saw the bug about not being able to talk with her or her doing anything nothing but patrolling around, but I am suffering from this looting bug really bad.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Produno on May 09, 2019, 11:46:02 AM
If anyone could upload a save it would be appreciated. I have tried with upto 9 companions, waiting several ingame days, giving a companion 10 looting skill and I still cannot reproduce the issue.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Billy Longbottom on May 10, 2019, 04:50:30 AM
I have been having this problem as well. I only have 1 companion (Thoros of Myr), and I am on day 150 or something but the second I got a companion I started to only be able to imprison 1 prisoner for each enemy type (ie. 1 dothraki warrior, 1 dothraki raider) no matter how many I knock unconscious. As well as receiving only a small amount of loot if any. I am in static wars and used the GOT tv series characters, also I am using (v4.3). Where should I upload a save file mine is too large for this reply attachment.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Maester Rawl on May 10, 2019, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: Billy Longbottom on May 10, 2019, 04:50:30 AM
I have been having this problem as well. I only have 1 companion (Thoros of Myr), and I am on day 150 or something but the second I got a companion I started to only be able to imprison 1 prisoner for each enemy type (ie. 1 dothraki warrior, 1 dothraki raider) no matter how many I knock unconscious. As well as receiving only a small amount of loot if any. I am in static wars and used the GOT tv series characters, also I am using (v4.3). Where should I upload a save file mine is too large for this reply attachment.

Dropbox is free and works well. https://www.dropbox.com/
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Billy Longbottom on May 10, 2019, 02:53:39 PM
Ok here is my save file on dropbox, don't judge me too harshly I lowered the difficulty to try and figure out the issue.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nehthx9sapcoc23/sg05.zip?dl=0
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Tages Grey on May 10, 2019, 03:48:54 PM
Thanks Longbottom figured out how to recreate it and to temporally fix it!

Okay, here is what I discovered on this bug thus far, including temp fix:

1. The major contributing factor is were your companions are listed in the party. Placing a companion on the very bottom of the list is the easiest way to replicate bug.  (Never dawned on me this was a contributing factor until I readjusted your party so I could upgrade your companions looting skill)

2. To immediately end the bug bring all of your companions directly under you in the party list ie:
William Sharp
Thros of Myr
Gendry
(Units)

3. To replicate the bug all you have to do is scatter your companions throughout your party.  To cause immiediate bug place a companion at the bottom of the list ie (In some cases it takes 5 battles for the bug to fully come into effect, the first noticiable effect will be prisoners, then loss of moral gain, followed by inability to loot.):

William sharp
Nothren Cavalry
Northren Hoseman
Nothren Footman
Thoros of Myr
Vale Footman
Tiger Cloak Archer
Gendry

4.  You can actually run a party like this and get all affects of the bug in randomnivity (Meaning that you will lose moral gain, looting ability, or recieve one of each prisoner at a time without the full annoyance of the bug being present) 

William sharp
Nothren Cavalry
Northren Hoseman
Nothren Footman
Thoros of Myr
Vale Footman
Gendry
Tiger Cloak Archer

If the temp fix does not work for any of you, post a save and I will try to find another in game fix while a permanent solution is being worked on.

Hope this helps relieve some of the stress this bug is creating for some of you and also put us on the path of solving it.  Make sure to applaud Billy Longbottom for his post, without him we would still be up the creek!
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: jdm311 on May 10, 2019, 04:35:09 PM
Good catch, Tages Grey!
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Billy Longbottom on May 10, 2019, 05:12:06 PM
Awesome! Thanks so much, it never even dawned on me that character order had any effect. Your a G
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: AaronZog on May 11, 2019, 12:53:29 PM
Tages Grey, Billy Longbottom,
Gentlemen, thank you very much!
Thought I fiddled with everything possible companion-wise, yet could never imagined party order would matter.
Title: Re: [v4.2] No morale boost, loot, xp or prisoners from battles
Post by: Slothpit on November 08, 2019, 12:42:56 AM
Had this happen a few times, move all companions to top of your party list. Should hopefully fix it.